This is a subject that has been close to my heart over the last few months. I think that this is a subject that we need to grasp. Now, I am not sure if we can completely grasp the subject but I think that we need to understand it better than we do.
There have been many people who say that you need to show and preach the LAW before you can show and extend GRACE. The reason for this is that they (individual you are reaching) can not see the need for GRACE if they are not confronted with the LAW. When they are confronted with the LAW, they will see the need.
Here is my question: Is this BIBLICAL ? I would LOVE to have people from both sides of the perspective speak up. I will allow difference of opinions on my site. I think that we can learn from each other and be challenged together.
On Pastor Brian's site, he asked individuals to comment about the comments that were in his post. During the comment sections Rhea mentioned the following:
As far as regarding the women at the well, Jesus pointed out her sin ("Go and tell your husband...."). He didn't simply give her a "warm & fuzzy" measure. Sometimes I'm not even sure how "worth it" it is to try to argue/discuss things with ppl like that :-)
Couple of things, my comments were never rude. Also, I was challenging (originally) that the story of the woman at the well is MUCH MORE than what they were using it for. It shows us that the message is for everyone. Jesus broke many barriers, laws and customs to talk to her. Also there is a point that RHEA brought out that I want to share to really get the conversation going or at least out there. Here is her portion highlighted (bold).
As far as regarding the women at the well, Jesus pointed out her sin ("Go and tell your husband...."). He didn't simply give her a "warm & fuzzy" measure.
Now, I know that you and a lot of your friends hold dearly to LAW and LAW MUST be preached first. But when you read the story, do you really see that ?? Take a look at the story. I know that I just did the story but here it is again for this conversation:
Jesus and the Samaritan Woman
Jesus left Judea and started for Galilee again. This time he had to go through Samaria, 5and on his way he came to the town of Sychar. It was near the field that Jacob had long ago given to his son Joseph. The well that Jacob had dug was still there, and Jesus sat down beside it because he was tired from traveling. It was noon, and after Jesus' disciples had gone into town to buy some food, a Samaritan woman came to draw water from the well.
Jesus asked her, "Would you please give me a drink of water?"
"You are a Jew," she replied, "and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink of water when Jews and Samaritans won't have anything to do with each other?"
Jesus answered, "You don't know what God wants to give you, and you don't know who is asking you for a drink. If you did, you would ask me for the water that gives life."
"Sir," the woman said, "you don't even have a bucket, and the well is deep. Where are you going to get this life-giving water? Our ancestor Jacob dug this well for us, and his family and animals got water from it. Are you greater than Jacob?"
Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will get thirsty again. But no one who drinks the water I give will ever be thirsty again. The water I give is like a flowing fountain that gives eternal life."
The woman replied, "Sir, please give me a drink of that water! Then I won't get thirsty and have to come to this well again."
Jesus told her, "Go and bring your husband."
The woman answered, "I don't have a husband."
"That's right," Jesus replied, "you're telling the truth. You don't have a husband. You have already been married five times, and the man you are now living with isn't your husband."
When I read that, I do not see much condemnation. I do not see him preaching the Law at her. From Rhea's comment about "go tell your husband" ..... this comes AFTER he offers her living water. Then not to "nit pick" because I think that repentance and forgiveness is very important, but I do not see that in the conversation.
So, my questions are the following:
- do you have to preach the law?
- does the law have to be shown before grace is offered?
- can a person receive grace then show repentance?
- where are biblical examples of grace first?
- where are examples of law first?